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I had to read this all again and oogle. It's impressive.
 
Discussion starter · #22 ·
Just got back from a dyno session at Texas Speed & Performance, I've been nervous all morning hoping everything would work out okay. I think I was more nervous than the day I got married!

As many of you know, I've been doing part throttle and cruise tuning on this car for quite awhile with help from a friend of mine [John Ginter]. The tuner at TSP commented on the overall idle of the car and how it did on the cruise and that it was doing pretty well. He did 4 or 5 pulls with cooldown in between. He was just trying to get the AFR just right, finished it up around 12.9:1 and it was pretty happy at that point. Open longtubes were creating a little noise issue with the knock sensors, he said it might have made a little more without it causing havok on that.

Going to look at getting a new harmonic balancer to help with spinning this thing up above 6K at the track since this thing without a balance shaft vibrates like crazy.

Just getting there:
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3.8 Liter capacity strap-on:
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Hot under the collar:
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Anyway, numbers.

3rd gear pull, unlocked 3800 stall:
196.02 hp @ 5600 rpm
196.33 tq @ 4600 rpm

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2nd gear was a little cleaner line:
195.12 hp @ 5750 rpm
206.14 tq @ 4600 rpm

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These weren't really power pulls more just to get a good tune. He didn't want to lug it too bad in 3rd with it locked out.

Compare to stock 'verter/trans and 140K mile motor:
184 TQ @ 4700 rpms
169 HP @ 5300 rpms


I am honestly pleased to see these numbers through a big stall. There's so many things that have changed on the car that just looking at the numbers it is hard to really compare the two as this car is very different from when I first started.

Going to the track tonight, running the 1/8th and hopefully get some times for everybody tonight.
 
Really great photo documentation. It's interesting to see the details of the 3.8L V6 assembly. I've wanted to learn more about them for a long time.

Great job - good luck with the rest of the mod's.
 
Prev. Owned 1994 Firebird Formula
Thanks for the comments!

It gets mixed reviews online, but most people that I talk to in person after they see my car running are usually impressed with the results.

If it is on a V8 supporting forum or a mixed group forum you get all kinds
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So I got tired of taking a lot of pics and getting mostly blurry shots with this camera. It's a basic point/shoot Kodak Easyshare and figured a $20 tripod wouldn't hurt. This thing can extend to 52" and compact down to about 16".

Here's some shots from me just goofing around with the timing settings in the garage.

I'll slowly get better at these shots, wanted to do some outside stuff but light was really harsh today.

The most enjoyable thing about this? I can use ambient light now in my photos without having to use the flash. Before I had to use the flash or else it was all blurry.

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Awesome Build man. I am very impressed with the V-6 build.
Now to try and find someone with the attention to detail and photos for 3.4L in my 95 and i could begin lol. Keep up the good work and keep us posted
 
it is a very impressive build you got going here. i couldnt read them in the photos but what are the decals on wheels?

everything looks like its being done right and has a clean appearance to it.......great job!
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
Speedline

I got reproduction decals to restore them to the same style that they were before. I still can't help but smile every time I walk out to my car and see these things
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What a difference in the photo quality!!!!

Great build and nice documentation of the build.
 
Discussion starter · #32 ·
Awesome Build man. I am very impressed with the V-6 build.
Now to try and find someone with the attention to detail and photos for 3.4L in my 95 and i could begin lol. Keep up the good work and keep us posted
Have you heard of 60°Inclusive? Or are you a member on the forum 60degreeV6 at all? John is the guy that did the top end work for my engine, he's really good at what he does and reasonably priced and he's in Florida too!
 
Discussion starter · #33 ·
More from today, had to find a place without too much direct light and then it started getting even more windy. Sure would be nice if we had a cloudy day to deal with...

Had to kill off a few shots because the pylons for the overpass just got all up in the shot...

Yay cool hood brah! Not so cool peeling clearcoat brah
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Discussion starter · #34 ·
Just drove it with the refreshed headers. Dunno if it has been the long absence and driving the Mazda3 or if it has a marked difference even with the open headers right now, but it pulled hard and fast with just a quick blip of the throttle. I got smart and went to Lowes and got some earplugs that have the little tether and a carrying case. Fits perfectly in the cupholder lol! No more threshold damage for me at least.

Waiting to get it all buttoned up so I can give it the beans again.

Pics of them repaired/modded and installed. Ready to see those parts turn that nice bronze pretty soon!

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Maybe I missed it in the read somewhere, but where did you find long tube for the 6? I can't seem to come up with anything. Great work on the 6 man!!!! Rock on!
 
Discussion starter · #36 ·
Force Fed Fabrications in Houston.

It was a sale on the v6 board I'm on at www.fullthrottlev6.com

They have a few sets left. $725 or so is the price you pay
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Discussion starter · #37 ·
New catback installed, electric cutout has been wired up as well. Very happy with how quiet and smooth this one sounds. Only one more happy about it is my wife
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I'll get videos sometime soon.
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
So I finally got a different catback to replace the TSP Rumbler. The wife complained a bit too often even when I'd drive trying to be mellow and not let it go over 3K rpms (no small feat with a 3800 stall).

I decided to start putting together a catback with the 13secV6 catback as a guideline. The serial numbers have changed since that thread was started, so I'll try and give you my best finds. I must note that I had to have a new y-pipe fabricated to work as the slip-fit setup as I got rid of the v-band setup as they were constantly snagging on things.

I did make a departure as the Summit Turbo Muffler had the dual out on the same side of the muffler instead of being a transverse setup. I went with a Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler that was 3" inlet and 3" dual outlet in transverse location. I couldn't find any 3" tailpipes to use, but figured I'd just have it done at the exhaust shop.

Parts:
Flowmaster 3" intermediate pipe: FLO-26087
Dynomax 3" Axle cross over pipe: WLK-53061
Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler: WLK-17670

Impressions:
Very mellow startup that still has a nice rumble compared to stock but won't attract too much attention with the cutout closed. It gives the car more of the grainy V6 sound instead of the scream from the Rumbler. I can carry on a conversation with my wife and the radio going without too much issue. No drone either inside the cabin.
I can also go WOT without people half a mile away knowing I'm coming.

This will offer much more of a sleeper standard for me which is what I liked. It sounded like I was trying to race everybody with the Rumbler, though I was part throttle all the time.

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Old catback w/ Rumbler:

For those that are wondering, I sold the Rumbler to another V6 owner in the area
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