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Tonight I decided to get started with the Liquitech Finish First vs Meguiars NXT 2.0. I prepped the hood by first using the clay bar with Dawn Liquid soap and washing the hood with Dawn Liquid soap. After drying the hood, I decided to use some clearcoat safe rubbing compound and scratch remover to remove anything left behind and it certainly did the trick. I zoned the hood off just like I did in the following thread: This thread. I will reveal which product is on which zone at the end of the testing.

This time I am going to change eliminate a few of the testing protocols that I didn't think offered much information. This time I will use:

1. The soaked hood side by side video.

2. The light spray side by side video.

3. Spray bottle bead test.

4. Drag test.

In this study we are testing:

1. Meguiars NXT 2.0

2. LiquiTech Finish First Polish

Cost:

Meguiars: $18.00 plus tax

LiquiTech: 19.95 + shipping (about $5.00). Be careful, if you buy it from Canada like I did, you will pay over $35.00 plus another $20 shipping. I should have looked around more before buying because you can buy from a dealer in the US and save a lot of money.

Application:

Meguiars:

1st Coat: I applied the Meguiars and waited 20 minutes to dry and then wiped it off the hood.

2nd Coat: After wiping the polish off the hood, I let it sit overnight before applying the second coat. I figured I would use the same curing period as I did for the LiquiTech.

LiquiTech:

1st Coat: I applied the LiquiTech and let it sit overnight, about 8 hours. * You don't have to allow it to sit this long, but I decided to just to see if it makes a difference and to see how easy it will come off. It says you only have to wait at least 15 minutes or until it dries. It says to wait at least 90 minutes between coats so it can cure.

2nd Coat: about 8 hours later I wiped off the first coat and applied the second coat. * Even after sitting over night, the wax wiped right off without any trouble at all. I removed the 2nd coat about 20 minutes later. Once again it came off with very little effort.

* Note: This round I am going to allow the wax to cure overnight on the vehicle, but if I test these two again, I will only allow it to set for 20 to 30 minutes to see if it makes much of a difference. The LiquiTech website says you can let it sit over night and I wanted to see how easily it would come off if you did.


Drag Test Results:

Drag Test Prior To Application Of LiquiTech Finish First Polish and Meguiars NXT 2.0:

This time I used rubbing compound to get the surface literally squeaky clean. As you can tell by the drag tests below, it really made a difference.

Zone 1: 1.25

Zone 2. 1.25

Drag test After Application of Liquitech Finish First Polish and Meguiars NXT 2.0:

Zone 1: 0

Zone 2: 0

Drag test After 1 Week of Liquitech Finish First and Meguiars NXT 2.0:

Zone 1: 0

Zone 2: 0

Although both were at zero, there is a clear difference as you can see below:

(My 2 year old daughter was having a hard time being quit during when I was recording the test, sorry)


Drag test After 2 Weeks of Liquitech Finish First and Meguiars NXT 2.0:

Some interesting results here, both Zones are still registering 0, but Zone 1 has actually become slicker this week as if the polish continued to cure and produce and even slicker surface. We will have to see if this holds true or not next week.

Zone 1: 0

Zone 2: 0

Here is a video:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW5tJE0hN_Q

Drag test After 3 Weeks of Liquitech Finish First and Meguiars NXT 2.0:

Zone 1: .11

Zone 2: .30

Drag test After 4 Weeks of Liquitech Finish First and Meguiars NXT 2.0:

Zone 1: .19

Zone 2: .33

Drag test After 5 Weeks of Liquitech Finish First and Meguiars NXT 2.0:

Zone 1: .55

Zone 2: .57
 

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Spray Tests:
Immediately After Application of Products:
Soaked Hood Test:


Light Spray Test:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRQddxU8MoE[/media]

Week 1 of LiquiTech Finish First vs Meguiars NXT 2.0


Soaked Hood Test:


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1G_gfbZ_w0[/media]

Light Spray Test:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m8UQ0-FZ7k[/media]


Week 2 of LiquiTech Finish First vs Meguiars NXT 2.0


Soaked Hood Test:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5FQSUk5heo[/media]

Light Spray Test:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMuOfDCJcXo[/media]

Week 3 of LiquiTech Finish First vs Meguiars NXT 2.0

Soaked hood Test

Prior to wash:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws0RFvqCBBU[/media]

After Wash:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNLVBJGOtjA[/media]

Light Spray Test:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2yKy7QPdF8[/media]

Week 3 of LiquiTech Finish First vs Meguiars NXT 2.0

Soaked Hood Test:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTaUMoLQ6eM[/media]

Light Spray Test:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_UZK_FeyCg
Spray Bottle Bead Tests:

Immediately After Application of Products
Left to Right: Zone 1 and Zone 2

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Week 1 of LiquiTech Finish First vs Meguiars NXT 2.0

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Week 2 of LiquiTech Finish First vs Meguiars NXT 2.0

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Week 3 of LiquiTech Finish First vs Meguiars NXT 2.0

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Week 3 of LiquiTech Finish First vs Meguiars NXT 2.0

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General Appearance Photos

Right After Application Of Products:

Note: Unfortunately my camera sucks and is an old simple point and shoot camera.

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Looks pretty close right now
I did notice on the spray bottle bead test that zone 2's beads looks a bit smaller, but still so far both products seem to be performing pretty identicle
 

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Okay, the first week of LiquiTech vs Meguiars NXT 2.0 has been completed. If anyone has been following along, they will immediately know which product is on which zone. It has become very predictable, which means we are doing a good job because it's now been repeated 4 times with the same result. The drag tests show that Zone one is quickly falling behind Zone two in terms of a slippery surface, but Zone one is doing a far better job at beading the water (if you feel water beading is important). Any thoughts?
 

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Alright, I finished up this week, but I am not sure how many more weeks we should continue due to the lack of interest, I might wind these tests down after this test is finished. Some very interesting things this week. Zone 1 has actually become slicker this week. This could be due to the weather or perhaps it's due to the polish curing even more over the last week. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens next week. The water action on Zone 1 seems to look a lot like the water action we seen with Zaino. Since the participation in this study is so low, I see no reason to keep the zones secret as we are getting no feedback from members regarding the zones, so I have to say that LiquiTech seems to be very similar in terms of water action as Zaino, but it seems to provides a longer lasting product in terms of slickness (if the slickness holds up next week). There is more, but I think I will leave it at that.
 

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Wow, this is a very interesting test. I think it's pretty neat how zone 1 was losing slickness but has now gained it back. I know with Liquitech, the longer it can cure the better it does. Of course i've been a fan of Meguiar's products for awhile too. For me I like a poilsh that lets me polish the whole entire car at once instead of having to do it in sections, and both of these products lets you do that
Thanks for doing this Bob
 

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Wow, this is a very interesting test. I think it's pretty neat how zone 1 was losing slickness but has now gained it back. I know with Liquitech, the longer it can cure the better it does. Of course i've been a fan of Meguiar's products for awhile too. For me I like a poilsh that lets me polish the whole entire car at once instead of having to do it in sections, and both of these products lets you do that
Thanks for doing this Bob
Thanks Alicia, so far the LiquiTech reminds me of Zaino in terms of water repulsion, but it's far easier to apply and remove and doesn't require as many coats. I find these tests to be very informative and I like doing the work and seeing the results. Hopefully we can find a way to get some renewed interest so that we can continue to test other products on the market. I know once I stop and lose the routine, it will be a PITA to get started again, just like lifting weights.
 

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Thanks Alicia, so far the LiquiTech reminds me of Zaino in terms of water repulsion, but it's far easier to apply and remove and doesn't require as many coats. I find these tests to be very informative and I like doing the work and seeing the results. Hopefully we can find a way to get some renewed interest so that we can continue to test other products on the market. I know once I stop and lose the routine, it will be a PITA to get started again, just like lifting weights.
Yep, so true, lol. Let me know if you need anything else, i'll be happy to help in any way I can
 

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Hey Bob, Thanks for all your effort and hard work!
This has been a very interesting study and it has changed my thought's for sure.


You sure are going to have the best looking vehicles around!
 

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Thanks Alicia, so far the LiquiTech reminds me of Zaino in terms of water repulsion, but it's far easier to apply and remove and doesn't require as many coats. I find these tests to be very informative and I like doing the work and seeing the results. Hopefully we can find a way to get some renewed interest so that we can continue to test other products on the market. I know once I stop and lose the routine, it will be a PITA to get started again, just like lifting weights.
Bob I know what you mean, two weeks away from the gym and it feels like your starting from scratch lol. But as far as interest goes I check in to see where your at but you've gotten so proficient at these tests all we really have to do is sit back and watch your video's. Also here in the northeast area (Boston) we get about 4 to 5 months of great driving weather (sometimes alot less) so my thoughts are some FBN folks are out enjoying BBQ's,family vacations, car shows, travel, adult beverages, and such ( its no excuse just my thought). Back to your testing..... it seems to me that the "name" brands tested so far all work well and it may come down to ease of use, availability, and cost. I was hoping you'd get to the Adams and other internet waxes\polishes, but I wouldnt hold any bad feelings if you did'nt as I know what your doing takes time and effort. Either way your doing a great job and I thank you.
 

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LOL you know what I'm talking about with the weather huh Kevin my FBN brother from another northeast state...Buffalo to boot, you probably still have snow banks lol. Last summer we got like three weeks of sunshine all summer ( 3rd,4th weeks in July and first week in August). I always laugh when I think of that old tv ad for visiting Florida.... a tiny tiny cloud goes over the sunny beach for like 20 seconds and everyone oooooo's and arrrrrr's and then someone says " tomorrow will be better" , I have to laugh when I think of that. This summer has been great so far:crossfingers22: And Bob has made it easy for us to follow along with his cool wax\polish testing !
 

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The topic has over 225 views, so I'd say people are interested. But like Jon said, you kind of say it all with the videos and drag test results. I look at it every week as soon as you post the results, but don't always comment. As always, thanks for all your hard work.

One thought for a truely long term test would be to get a flat peice of painted metal. Section it off and apply 3 or 4 coats of each product and leave it sitting in the sun/wind/snow etc. Do all the tests once a month. This would give you a long term durability test along with your heads up hood compitition.
 

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Today we had an unexpected guest in our study, tree sap. I believe it was tree sap and we had a few very small drops on each panel. The good thing was, they were not in our drag zone. I was very surprised to see how easily the sap was removed from the hood. Both products performed exceptionally well and the sap was washed off both zones with the first rinse, believe it or not. Another interesting thing is that Zone 1 seems to be getting rid of the water faster than Zone 2, and Zone 1 is providing a slicker surface than Zone 2, so it seems the LiquiTech Finish First is holding up very good in the slick test department.

This is not entirely related, but during the week I found a website which referenced our studies in a topic promoting FUKKEN wax, and one guy tried to suggest that dragging a ten pound weight across the hood would be removing the products from the hood. They were promoting FUKKEN wax and mentioned the fact that in one of our studies, I dragged the 10lb weight across the drag zone of one product 30 times. That was the Zaino zone BTW. He postulated that since I did that, it would have removed a lot of the the product, but in reality, in that study, the Zaino still out performed the Chemical Guys and FUKKEN wax in our test. If his theory were correct, the Zaino zone would have performed the worst, which it didn't. Another point which should be mentioned is that FUKKEN was our site advertiser at the start of those tests, and if we wanted to skew the results, it would have been in my best interested to skew the results in favor of the FUKKEN wax and to show them as finishing first, which clearly didn't happen. And finally, we reproduced those same results 3 times.

In addition, 10 lbs is a very light weight. I can tell you that most people put far more weight on their car when buffing it out. I invited them all over to here to our forum to give us some ideas on how to improve the tests, but so far none of them have shown up. I would love to hear feedback on how people think we can improve these tests since our only goal is to find the best wax / polish for our vehicles. I am not a brand loyalist and I understand that companies are only out to make an extra buck and don't really give a damn about consumers.

I wanted to post this here in case anyone else reads the thread on the other forum, and would like to read the rebuttal. They can feel free to join and post right here in this thread.


Both photos are of before the was, there was no sign of the stuff after the wax.
 

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Well, I think you're doing a great job Bob
The thing I like the most about you doing these tests is that you don't work for any of these companies, so we get to see unbiased tests be done. So, I say again, GREAT JOB BOB!!!!!
 

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Yeah, I agree. i don't think there is any issue with dragging the weight across the hood. Even if it does take some off, it is a necessary component of the testing.
 
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