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thats the most arrogant remark I've seen on this site....

Should every brand stop carrying a smaller engine and only sell the biggest engine possible? I guess everyone who wanted a firebird wanted to drive around on 93 octane. A mentality like that is a reason people don't buy pontiacs or american cars in general. Way to fill out the sterotype. the 3.8 is a proven engine, that is reliable, well built, and a perfect engine for the lower model f-bodys.

Formula, ws6, trans am is where the real deal is? ws6 is a tran am, just with a couple more options, so which one is the "real deal"???? edit your post to this "ls1 is where the real powers at"......that would be more approriate.
The most retarded response since ive joined this site....

Lets take a trip back in time shall we? Firebirds were **ORIGINALLY** designed and made to have V8s only! I would know because my grandfather owned a '69 'Bird for nealry 15 years. My step-dad had a 98 WS6. NOT tha same thing as a Trans Am. V6 engines are poopy. Its a disgrace to a legacy. 93 octane? Never heard of it. You want good fuel economy buy a small sedan, wise guy. Firebirds are muscle cars. End of story.
 

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The most retarded response since ive joined this site....

Lets take a trip back in time shall we? Firebirds were **ORIGINALLY** designed and made to have V8s only! I would know because my grandfather owned a '69 'Bird for nealry 15 years. My step-dad had a 98 WS6. NOT tha same thing as a Trans Am. V6 engines are poopy. Its a disgrace to a legacy. 93 octane? Never heard of it. You want good fuel economy buy a small sedan, wise guy. Firebirds are muscle cars. End of story.
I think my problem was I had an automatic V6, instead of 5 speed manual transmission. Manual probably would of gave me a little more performance. Regardless the 3.8 Liter V6 rarely ever gave me a problem.
 

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The most retarded response since ive joined this site....

Firebirds were **ORIGINALLY** designed and made to have V8s only!
So let me get this straight, you say they came with V8's only? Guess that means the OHC-6 that was created by John Delorean and put in 67-69 Firebirds was a V8, according to your statement???

Get your facts straight, even back in the day they had 6 cylinders and if I could recall the Sprint version of the OHC-6 kept up with quite a few V8's. Just because it isn't a V8 doesn't mean it doesn't have potential. Also in my opinion, it's more respectable to get more horsepower out of an engine that isn't known to be fast or quick.

BTW the 3.8 is a damn good motor! My friend had one in his Buick and it lit up the front tires like if it were nothing
 
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So let me get this straight, you say they came with V8's only? Guess that means the OHC-6 that was created by John Delorean and put in 67-69 Firebirds was a V8, according to your statement???

Get your facts straight, even back in the day they had 6 cylinders and if I could recall the Sprint version of the OHC-6 kept up with quite a few V8's. Just because it isn't a V8 doesn't mean it doesn't have potential. Also in my opinion, it's more respectable to get more horsepower out of an engine that isn't known to be fast or quick.

BTW the 3.8 is a damn good motor! My friend had one in his Buick and it lit up the front tires like if it were nothing
LMAO ALL muscle cars back in tha day had V8s wise guy. my grandfathers '69 had a 350 till 90,000 then it was replaced by a custom 400 topped with headers. Iseen the original engine myself, EIGHT CYLINDERS. John Delorean was a nutjob. his car was wack. BTW im talkin bout a 3.4, not a 3.8
And speaking of Buicks, my cousin has a '65 Riviera with a 450 big block.
 

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u know not everybody wants a sports car with a V8 thats why thier is such a wide assortment of them different styles,engines,etc as talking trash about V6 motors ur wrong they do just what they are designed to do get u from point A to point B. i can run with a ram air trans am on the interstate with my V6 with no problem its called a speed limit now if u want to run on the track then u want the biggest baddest V8 u can get .
 

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LMAO ALL muscle cars back in tha day had V8s wise guy. my grandfathers '69 had a 350 till 90,000 then it was replaced by a custom 400 topped with headers. Iseen the original engine myself, EIGHT CYLINDERS. John Delorean was a nutjob. his car was wack. BTW im talkin bout a 3.4, not a 3.8
And speaking of Buicks, my cousin has a '65 Riviera with a 450 big block.
is your grandfathers '69 every muscle car? no. its one out of many. do you call grand nationals muscle cars? i sure do. and hey guess what, it came with a V6 that could thrash alot of V8s straight off of the showroom floor. i 'seen' it happen before
 

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Nick from Mesa obviously doesn't know what he's talking about, and he's a jerk to boot. He won't last here long.
 

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Nick from Mesa obviously doesn't know what he's talking about, and he's a jerk to boot. He won't last here long.
Nick from Mesa has 3 posts, all in this thread.

But I digress.

This site has, bar none, the best members. I enjoy all my time here, and, as my signature states, I don't even have a firebird. The people here though have, through their terrific personalities, shown to me that I should get one for myself just so i have an excuse to travel and say hi.
 
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Nick from Mesa obviously doesn't know what he's talking about, and he's a jerk to boot. He won't last here long.
Kevin from Buffalo should write meaningful posts or not spam and mind his own business. Call me what you want. Words dont hurt me, idiot. Someone got butt hurt cuz i mentioned my v6 firebird before tha black on my avatar was a piece of poopy. My main point was and ima say it again: you want good gas mileage, buy a small sedan. i got money, 91 octane aint no problem for me. A V6 in a muscle car makes no sense. Dats my opinion, you guys disagree cry somewhere else.
 

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Some people can't afford a V8 but still love the cars or plan on putting in V8's in the future. I have owned 3 3rd gen f-bodies. An 86 Camaro with a 2.8l V6 5-speed that surprised alot of people at how much tq it had. An 87 Firebird with a 2.8l V6 automatic and me and my wife put a lot of time and money into that car that I almost cried when I sold. I then had a 92 Firebird with the 5.0 and my 2.8l had more get up and go then it.

So not everyone buys a car for what it's mostly designed for, some people just like the car for it's look and want to cruise in it. Same with people that buy trucks, but don't need it. They just like them.

Now if this thread keeps going on like it was, it will be closed.
 

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Kevin from Buffalo should write meaningful posts or not spam and mind his own business. Call me what you want. Words dont hurt me, idiot. Someone got butt hurt cuz i mentioned my v6 firebird before tha black on my avatar was a piece of poopy. My main point was and ima say it again: you want good gas mileage, buy a small sedan. i got money, 91 octane aint no problem for me. A V6 in a muscle car makes no sense. Dats my opinion, you guys disagree cry somewhere else.
so ill ask you again, you dont think a grand national is a muscle car? do you even know what one is? i guarantee if you ran with one tomorrow you would lose
 

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WOW!!! I didn't realize my thread would cause this much havoc. The V6 and V8 debate can probably go on forever. Their both good engines... No question about that, but the V8 definitely backs up the beauty with brawn. Although I have heard of some supercharged V6's rivaling V8's. Some people just want a nice looking car, good on gas, but aren't necessarily looking for strong power. Then the v6 is a great choice. Think of it as the best of both worlds. Like I said in a previous post, if I do decide to get another FireBird, it would definitely be a v8, but that is just my personal preference.
 

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thats where your wrong, wise guy. firebirds never did carry a small engine. look it up on wikipedia. LS1's are cheap. aluminum block? wheres the american muscle legacy? LT1s at least sounds old school. theman was tryna prove a point and you got butt hurt bout it. like he said no reason to have a V6 in a muscle car.

326 CID V8
350 CID V8
400 CID V8

First gen. 'birds used these engines, dont see no V6 here.
You forgot the I6 in the first gens.
 
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