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Hey guys,

just starting some kind of a build thread,

bought a few days ago a 97 bird with the 3.8 , Y87 code, black with grey interiors, t-top and manual tranny.

i love it, but it needs major works,

i already left it in a body shop because the previous owner hit a pole coming out of a corner (yup he spun, and he hugghed the pole with a door...).

it has some rust all over the under carriage.

interiors are in pieces, i need a lot of interior parts (gonna open a thread soon) starting from the upper part of the dash (the one that faces the windshiels, to sun visors, radio, ebrake bezel, radio and so on.

i also need to do a full tune up with new fluids.

only mod is the alluminum DS

if you want to follow me on youtube this is my channel (no bird yet on it)

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6TtHsgUpcylmfI9r6pyCyw?view_as=subscriber

and insta

https://www.instagram.com/tommyvercettitorque/

238000ish km

any input is much appreciated

thanks!
 

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Thanks ZumpTA for all the precious infos, i appreciate it.

i downloaded all i needed from the section you pointed out.

also, a few days ago i placed the order on ebay for the heynes manual, just to be sure.

In italy there is no chance whatsoever to find Pontiac parts...i can find something for the grand cherokee zj, but no pontiac's.

i'll check that carparts site for sure. probably also gonna open a thread in the market place on here.

i found the upper dash pad and the thin cover, i have to say that shipping and italian taxes are killing me :(

also, at the moment there is some crappy and very ugly carpet covering the missing upper dash pad, i don't think there's much upper dash pad left though.

i don't think the thin cover will work, unless i build some kind of structure under it.

pics attached

also thanks for the kind words, defenetly rough...
 

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Hey guys,
I started gathering parts to fix the body and paint,
And also I might have found some interiors that I'm missing .
Will keep you updated

One more thing, am I dumb or what? I can't open a thread in the wanted parts section...I urgently need the driver side mirror ....

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Hi ,

ok thanks, i just did it.

also, few updates, i started the body work...far from perfect, still need some touches.

also, placed a few ebay orders: engine oil, complete discs and pads kit and injectors cleaner.

i need a transmission mount, my shifter is moving around while i'm driving, especially on bad pavement.

is this good?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Transmission-Mount-for-1993-2002-Chevrolet-Camaro-Pontiac-Firebird-3-4L-3-8L/273219693047?hash=item3f9d29a9f7&enc=AQADAAADEFjVrDbVsZ8oH%2F8PNHtt9VX4%2Fw7FZcmMuqsX8uaFEduVgjXcNLErOtHO4jATriYExi8cmHfnYZxmUnbMfCBZmXCF2c6CUXENNmE6jNZQ5j9O87EOh6EHoDpxu2AtVLAAPs%2BQP4AA5pcr6nMPvZ0FIIjf2%2Bma3Kda0lnoZct8oNpaBfJl4rY2s8Uv7lC5OEAI7zOc39vdIEOA0TWABJNM6Ktj2G6swyuVVBfCcWCjCUUf7G%2F54z69lCdO%2Bd3pIXD6yVs5N5kRDOG8kz7jpNRirzNuwjZ%2FMbMXYkKHbq4D2FByZyalAn7FCNY9TaWtfaAB9b4qzQvhQo9weufhXCLnRfyB5SN9dq%2FkAri%2B25WaBX5jmbkol7CxxHmjY4CAYO2OwNAYPZOJ1OulgfeokSGGcZzKlc4evCM6%2FIyEXgj1bGJucgysG4d6uUGFLYOoiL%2Fu2ebbs5BDP1opF7qgU20u6Kk94BtolXz4R4j7PkR4c%2FITO621YwTOt2Yjq4aPgpbzjBOe4hlf5psmyRGBr9Z6MNadgZwfy2CBBriNvwT4P2HJ9iOCKH%2FXxApe%2FsShsPlAfdxlr4TBaV%2BLS8V4t9TvnK24clOO4AZp4R9%2BvxOXVKfF3tU6Bu06Dvc0F9khnT5F%2FZu5zrEQ5rckYk6wFzk%2FMysSy8XI%2BQ6UcJ3%2BaH1VOzVDyLCrMi6a2hhmvAy53gNok7rHN4QCQ%2ByLm0Iu0LqLEmeMRyWwrdbIZcl8SnwpeeSxCPuoFH%2B6%2BiaeoNhXBHgpHTQ3qvw8TkGUKGdJ29ZeQNvz5gMrVPkTQjKRK0c0ZSmzc0HW3O6iCF37nR8jcWwQfdr3neKgeZbs%2BSI5KAgLOjJPtBkbao6o9oeOMY2fvQbpfpIyH1QuQcJXhwmN7HMF9GuLSGj9nicINIewIgoxkf%2FGA1pI3%2BEE8AqS0AvFsbh2xkGELHu6ySWiZ7%2BcIZb3NbqrDMsH9wPePgk4T7r%2Bb9wse50nIHsaJlIO1iqDwzaXIcuHIugnbO3L41BmjCQGQicjN7CnFieDS3WLic%2FDjlU%3D&checksum=27321969304743dcf90ba94c4055b79ac950e64ff2d2&frcectupt=true

another couple of questions, which oil do you advise for the t5 tranny and the rear diff with lsd?

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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Hey guys,

i need to post some pics on the forum...i'm trying to repair the body damage.

also, just placed the order for the rear diff and tranny fluid, and k&n fuel filter.

now, i might have found a mirror too...
 

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Ehi guys,

more updates from today:

- had to adjust and modify a battery terminal...still need a new battery though;

- re-installed my older driver side mirror, i had to mend it pretty hard...at least i won't risk a ticked until i get the one;

- installed the turning signals from my persona grand cherokee stash, insted of the fake vents it had bolted on;

- cleaned all the interiors;

- went further with detailing the body

...lost a big chunk of rust from under the front fender...i'll have to put the car on the lift to see what's going on there.

quick video of yesterday:

 

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ahahahaah thanks, i appreciate it ;)

more jobs:

1) new oil in the engine and new mann filter, also added nanotec engine seal;

2) also put in new battery, bosh 12V 60mA and 540a.
 

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small updates from this morning,

i switched the door locks, i installed the one from the older door because obviously my key wasn't locking and unlocking it (installed a new door after the crash).

i had to tighten the door handle bacuse it was too loose and it was moving around.

also, i'm having some trouble with the inside door handle (the one on the door panel) it's still not working. the leverage keeps escaping from it's own location into the door mechanism.

so, the door can be opened from the outside handle, but can not be opened from the inside.
 

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Where every linkage bar slips into a hole, there should be a plastic "keeper" to lock it in place. They are very fragile and easily broken. The older they get, the weaker they become. Eventually they will just fall apart on their own. Not sure if these are the exact part, but, they are like these.

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/dorman-help-door-lock-rod-clips-75450/9110113-p?c3ch=PLA&c3nid=9110113-P&adtype=pla_with_promotion&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhuvlBRCeARIsAM720HoMYnAGS-_dq4r3UHEBJZHD5zvY6d9fzccIQk_utDipn8USmCYKjHoaAmP1EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
thanks for that precious link, i might have one to spare from the "other door stuff". i'll check it out and get back to you.

thanks as usual, i appreciate the help
 

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Hi guys,

i had one of those clips like the biggest ones in the link , but it looks like it's not the correct one because the door won't open if I install it. i'll try to see what i can do.

also, i changed the oil in the rear diff and painted the cover ( the cover was rusted to shi*, i had to grind it down a lot with a power tool).

i'll try to post pics.

i noticied i have a magnaflow muffler on it.

239050 km now

ps:

a few pics here

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and attempted a little speed test
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didn't feel to get past 200 due to the fact that i don't have proper brakes and tires.
will get back on it as soon as i install full brake kit and good tires ;)
private road
 

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Thanks Zump, i really appreciate your help.

no worries though, i bought motul 90pa which already has the additive in it.

yesterday i did some experiments with the hood trying to open the vents a bit, will go further and post pics.

i hope to start tranny fluid and cooling works this week.
 

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hey guys,

quick updates:

- new tranny fluid

- new coolant...coolant was very bad, puourd out something that looked like muddy water...

- with the help of a zip tie and after bending the rod a few times, not my door is opening with the proper handles both form the inside and from the outside

...still fighiting with the driver window adjustments, when it rains i'm still getting water into the car!

ps: 238900km on the car
 

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Hi GUys,

i finally found some interiors:

- sun visors, obviously they need to be rebuilt...they look like shi*

-door swithches

-ashtrey

-trunk cover

-some moquette

also, finally got a cheap mirror! and a cigarette ligher coming from my jep parts ;)

ps: 240050 km on it

i have to say, it is quite thirsty though....
 

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Hey guys, more jobs completed:
- new KN fuel filter
-new rear brakes discs and pads , also had to bleed the brakes hoping to shut off the abs light that sometimes comes and go;
-notieced that I have some sponge as an air filter...will open a thread.
240400 km on it
 

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Hey guys,

sorry for the long time no see, had been too busy with work . just got back from a business trip to Istanbul.

a few updates:

-new tires, stock 215/60/16...

-new windshield with new seals (thanks to my insurance )

...got an older radio as a gift from a friend, need to figure out how to wire it...probably gonna open a thread, and also got a set of 4 JBL speakers from one of my parts jeep. again, will need help on wiring.

also placed an order for, wix air filter, wix oil filter, oil pan plug gaskets , lug nuts and windshield wipers.

242400km on it

after the last car wash my ABS light turned on and ABS itself ain't working now. any suggestions? where should i start looking?

thanks
 

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Hey guys,

still can't figure out the ABS...it mostly does not work, sometimes it does for a few minutes...??

i'm now waiting for the insurance to get me another windshield (due to hail storm that destroyed my car...fuc* me).

aslo, i got a 2000 camaro for parts...will keep you updated.

thanks
 

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thanks for the advices, i'll try to solve some issues and report back.

letely i'm working on the jeep, btw a couple of vids are here:



about the pontica, yesterday new air filter has been installed.

will post pics
 
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