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Got the FB out of the shop today and got the rear end clipped.


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#1 edteach

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 02:37 PM

I found a new AC hose and got the shop to install it Picked up the bird and traffic in Bentonville is so damn heavy. In a turn lane for I49 and the truck in the on coming lane waved the car ahead of me on to turn he went through and then He waved me on and I should not have trusted anyone and a corvette clipped my rear end. Now I am having a hard time finding a body shop to do the repair



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Posted 14 February 2020 - 02:45 PM

Damn. Sorry to hear that.

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Posted 14 February 2020 - 02:54 PM

Thanks, still feeling like I am going to heave.



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Posted 14 February 2020 - 08:46 PM

I am so focused on what other drivers are doing and watching my mirrors whilst driving the old bird, that my wife says it looks like I am not enjoying myself. Intense, cannot help it, wish there were not so many idiots out on the road. Have gotten better over time, and enjoy cruising more, but still have my head on a swivel. Sorry to hear this Jim.

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 03:17 AM

Thanks Brada, I took it to my insurance recommended shop and they don't work on cars that old. Now I am worried I will not be able to find a shop to work on it. The Insurance had fault at 60/40 I am 60 because I was turning. In NWA the traffic is so bad. I never take the bird down to Bentonville unless its for repair shop. And it was my fault depending on someone to wave me through. Traffic was so bad and the car ahead of me went through with the truck waving him on it disarmed me as I had so much to pay attention to. Looking back hind sight, I think the truck was waving me on for him not for the other side of him. It was several bad factors all come together.



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Posted 15 February 2020 - 05:57 AM

If all else fails, try your local trade/technical school. They usually have an autobody class and often accept projects. Not knowing how bad the damage is, I couldn't say if you're being blown off by shops or not. I don't buy the "old cars" thing one bit. Then again, everything is pretty much totaled these days over moderate damage, or snap together to repair.

There has to be somebody who can fix it, it just might take time to find them. Until then tho, do inspect well and primer anywhere the paint has come off. Rust sets in fast. Spare yourself that nightmare at least. Good luck finding a shop.

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 06:21 AM

I could not look at it yesterday, so today I took some pictures. There is no leaking from the gas tank, seems to have missed any damage to the axle, But it pushed a wrinkle behind the passenger door. Trunk lid is fixable or not really damaged and the spoiler looks like it can be reused.

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 02:49 PM

That B pillar is not good.

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Posted 15 February 2020 - 04:54 PM

I was worried about that also. I am hoping they do not total it. In a new car they would not but being an older car I can see it. It seems to track fine. I really don't want to total it I want it repaired.



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Posted 15 February 2020 - 05:23 PM

It's an entire rear quarter panel up to the lead roof join. Luckily (?) that's seems to be the extent of the buckle, and that panel is available as one. But that's major surgery and as you found, most panel beaters these days wouldn't know how to beat a panel, just undo the clips and replace.



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Posted 15 February 2020 - 06:14 PM

The parts are really not that bad 435 for a rear quarter panel, 175 for a vinyl bumper cover and I think the rest can be salvaged. The tail light looks good and so does the trunk deck.



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Posted 15 February 2020 - 06:16 PM

The parts are cheap. It's fitting them. There's a lot of work swapping out a rear quarter panel and you end up respraying half the car as no joins to work to.



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Posted 15 February 2020 - 06:40 PM

I have full coverage with 500 delectable. So unless the insurance co bawks at the cost I should be OK.



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Posted 15 February 2020 - 07:18 PM

I am so focused on what other drivers are doing and watching my mirrors whilst driving the old bird, that my wife says it looks like I am not enjoying myself. Intense, cannot help it, wish there were not so many idiots out on the road. Have gotten better over time, and enjoy cruising more, but still have my head on a swivel. Sorry to hear this Jim.

 

This right here. I'm so tense when I drive the bird my back hurts after a good drive. Stresses me out but I got a really nice dash and that makes me feel a bit more comfortable. 



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Posted 15 February 2020 - 07:28 PM

You feel comfortable having a nice dash?



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Posted 15 February 2020 - 08:41 PM

I must admit, however, that I am more nervous about breaking down while out driving than getting hit. The old 'hot starter' not engaging has had me sitting for a good half hour a couple of times. I realise that my 75 is not very rare or valuable, but it does mean a lot to me.... I still get the permagrin everytime I drive it, thats what counts.

Sorry to see the pics of the damage Jim, I agree with Ben, I cringe when thinking about replacing an entire rear quarter.

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Posted 16 February 2020 - 04:27 AM

Brada I know but its repairable and not with bondo. I was so worried about parts and now I find they are readily available. what makes me sick is I have so much tied up in the car. I have put everything new on it except muffler, fuel pump and water pump. And the thing was totally rust free. I felt like I was going to heave on the way home. And I was just wanting to get the bird home from the shop. The shop is in the middle of Bentonville and traffic in the week day is horrible. I lived in Sarasota Fla for years and I don't think traffic was any worse there than here. But we have the HQ for Daisy in Rogers, Tyson Foods, JB Hunt trucking and Walmart all in this NWA and its crazy town. People flying by to and from work and it can be a night mare.


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Posted 16 February 2020 - 09:17 AM

You feel comfortable having a nice dash?

Dash camera. For some reason it won't let me edit that post after I created it. 

 

Ended up getting them in all of my cars. Someone ran a red and hit my wife, dash camera showed the entire event and the lady tried to sue us saying it was my wife's fault. They watched the video, she ran the red clearly in it, end of the story. Yeah we had damages to the car but at least we didn't have to argue in court on what happened. 


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Posted 17 February 2020 - 08:57 AM

Met with the body shop and he found more damage than I thought. Hood is jacked a bit and the drivers B pillar has shifted. Need to be straightened out on a frame puller. He said that the initial insurance will want to total it. He told me he has a 74 vintage Camaro and has worked on F bodies his whole life. Said this car is a 30 grand car. He said we need to meet with the adjuster to go over it. I told him I have repair checks and invoices for heading for 10 grand. With what I paid for it I have 20 grand into it so far. His off the top of his head estimate repair was around 7500 to 8 grand. He also said this car needs to be repaired.



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Posted 17 February 2020 - 10:31 AM

So sorry to hear about this.

 

More than likely you will have to fight the insurance company not to total it. They have gotten bad about totaling things that are reparable. Disposable cars, grrr.

 

Be prepared to show proof of what you have invested in the car and what you've replaced or repaired. Before accident photos will help too. All this to prove that the car is not a $1,000 junk heap.

 

Good luck.




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