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Posted 18 February 2009 - 07:53 PM

OK, over the time FBN was down I managed to mess up my car so bad that now I'm finding oil in the anti-freez! Its with out a doubt oil and not something else. There appears to be no coolent in the oil and the oil appears to remain at a consistant level although I'm still putting through its paces (letting it idol while constantly monitoring it condition). I'm not shure what I did to break it. Sunday I replaced my CTS, then I replaced one gallon of anti-freez with some fresh stuff because the old stuff was nasty. It didnt have any oil in it, it was just a dark dark green. The stuff I used to replace it was some house brand 50/50 coolent/antifreeze from Auto Zone. The next day everything was fine. The day after that I went to check the coolent level, poped the cap off the radiator and rather than fresh green anti-freeze, it was dark brown thick goo, or in simpler terms OIL!!! I proceded to flushing the system, then I drained the water out of the radiator and then I filled the rediator with 100% antifreeze (would mix with the water still in the blockand produce 50/50). I am still getting oil in it though. I also noticed that if you relese the pressure in the radiator, you can here a gurgling sound comeing from the block. The only time I have driven it sence discovering it had oil in the radiator was tonight to the gas station and back (was totching the letter E again, brings back memorys of being stuck on 2 hwy) I did drive it to school and back monday but didnt drive it hard at all. Didnt do any thing stupid with her.

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Posted 18 February 2009 - 09:13 PM

Cracked head or blown head gasket?
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Posted 18 February 2009 - 09:24 PM

letts hope its just the head gasket!
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 05:00 AM

is it a brown kinda gooey stuff? like a rust color? this may not be oil but the gummy S**t dexcool leaves in its wake. I had the exact same stuff in my 97 when i flushed the coolent system and there was ALOT of it. kinda looked like oil and antifreeze mixed together. See if there is any water bubbles on your dip stick. If there are this is a good indication of water and oil mixing in the block.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 07:18 AM

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is it a brown kinda gooey stuff? like a rust color? this may not be oil but the gummy S**t dexcool leaves in its wake. I had the exact same stuff in my 97 when i flushed the coolent system and there was ALOT of it. kinda looked like oil and antifreeze mixed together. See if there is any water bubbles on your dip stick. If there are this is a good indication of water and oil mixing in the block.



so that's what happened with my 94... I thought I boiled the coolant, it was gross, I ran three gallons of coolant through the system, and it still was nasty...
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 07:33 AM

My current LT1 has dexcool in it and needs flushed. Not sure if i will be refilling it with dexcool or not. seems it sucks but idk how 50/50 will do since the engine has been running dex cool for almost 150k
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 07:42 AM

If yo mixed DexCool w/ anything else or vise-versa, it will get thick and gel-like. Can yo smell oil, what about the dip stick,any bubbles/foreign substance, what about your temp gauge. If you have cracked head/gasket, the temp gauge will rise to over heating level.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:21 AM

If its oil, it will make it look like dark-creamy-chocolate milk, and have a smell. And if your system was full, it would cause overfilling due to it overheating, and expanding.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 01:52 PM

OK, yes there are bubbled on the dipstick (didnt know what that ment till now) The stuff smells like oil too. I have noticed the temp DOSE seem to rise faster than it used to, but I figgured that was b/c I was watching it so close. Not to overheating though. And yes, it dose seem to "loose" collent every so often. not shure where it all gose. wateing for it to cool off so I can go check it. I drove it to school today as a test.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 05:31 PM

OK, heres them pics I promised!

The ice cream bucket full of green antifreeze is what I took out of the car origonaly while replaceing the sensor.
The spegettie sause jar and the 1/4 filled ice cream bucket contain the antifreeze after I discovered the black substance.

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 07:12 PM

I wonder why you just didn't drain ALL the coolant? (radiator, heater core, AND block)?

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 07:18 PM

my 94 did the same thing, it was getting really hot, and i thought that the coolant was boiling when i was driving. don't know what caused it, but it was the same nasty stuff that you had in your bucket.
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 07:34 PM

What do I do with all this old collent?
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Posted 19 February 2009 - 07:41 PM

Go to your local NAPA or AAP... they usually take junk fluids at the ones around me...

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:31 PM

View Posttonka, on Feb 19 2009, 10:34 PM, said:

What do I do with all this old coolant?



Feed it too that irritating neighbors dog that just keeps barking and barking and barking!! LOL

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Posted 19 February 2009 - 08:32 PM

The funny thing is that Leon isnt kidding... he really does that.

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Posted 20 February 2009 - 08:37 AM

Thats a great idea Leon, exept I'm the annoying nabor. I hate my dogs but I dont think I would get to live there any more if mom found out.
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View Posttonka, on Feb 20 2009, 08:37 AM, said:

Thats a great idea Leon, exept I'm the annoying nabor. I hate my dogs but I dont think I would get to live there any more if mom found out.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 06:34 PM

Update:

OK, after your guys's inputs and a few hrs of research I have com to a conclusion. I'm selling my bird on craigs list. Theres a Geo Metro around here for around $250. I'm gona buy that and put the rest into a saveing fund for a 2002 WS6 Trans Am.

SIKE! Not if my life depended on it!

ANYWAY, I have come to a real conclusion.
I believe the coolent that was in my car mixed with the new coolent that I put in it. That is what I believe caused the brown goo. I changed my oil the otherday and the oild oil, although REALLY old, did not have any coolent in it. As for the problem of the goo, I've flushed it really good once. Just to be safe though, I'm gona flush it again the very next time the weather permits. I plan on doing exactly what Leon sugjested and am gona remove the coolent hoses, the radiator plug and the CTS and am gona run a hose through it all. I do have a Q though.

When I flush it. Could I just put the hose where the CTS was and let it do its work? or should I run the hose through one or all of the coolent hose(s). And should the car be running for any of this?

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