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Posted 23 January 2010 - 05:51 PM

Does anyone have a picture or know of a link, or site that would have a picture of a second gen with the 17 inch cast snowflakes from year one mounted on it?
I have a buccaneer red 77 T/a and am curious what they would look like. What front and rear sizes would be used with a stock ride height car? I have 255/60/15s on all four corners and like the outside diameter.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 06:58 PM

Check the link here.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 07:54 PM

17 inch snow flakes made me think of something other than wheels. :)
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 09:08 PM

Wow,,,that is a lot of wheel for a second generation Bird...

They look just like the ones on the Burt Reynolds edition models....


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Posted 23 January 2010 - 09:20 PM

The ones on the Burt Reynolds edition were the billett aluminum ones they have and I think they were 18 inches or something outrageous like that. The billett ones look almost flat to me with no contours on them at all. Those 17's, however look EXCELLENT! :)

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 10:18 AM

Sounds to me like you don't want to go to a low profile tire though. You want to maintain the similar amount of "rubber" to stock.

(I just re-read the OP. I may have this screwed up... if so, ignore completely)

If you go up 2" in size, you may run into problems with clearance if you maintain similar tire profile. The rear may be ok, but I think you will run into problems on the front, especially if you drive on something other than glass. Our 81, while not a pristine example, is all original. I resprung the rear, and that minor change in geometry was enough to cause the front tire to start rubbing on the fender. I've temporarily shimmed the front springs to compensate, but new springs are on my list of things to do relatively soon. This is with stock 15" rims and original sized tires.

If you do the swap, you may need to replace all the springs and shocks, if they haven't been done recently.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 01:55 PM

Here are some pictures of my buddies 79 T/A with the YO snowflakes.
Sorry but I don't remember the tire size. My white 79 has the stock 15" wheels with 255/60/15s.

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Posted 24 January 2010 - 02:04 PM

Hey Leon,

Your buddy's 1979 T/A looks pretty good with those 17 inch Year One snowflake wheels....do you know if he has a stock suspension on the car or has he lifted the ride height?


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Posted 24 January 2010 - 02:26 PM

Thanks 1tinindian, those pics sold me on the wheels, if you are able to come across the tire size could you please post it, yearone claims 275 fit but that seems pretty wide on the front, my 255 rub now.
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 03:13 PM

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Hey Leon,

Your buddy's 1979 T/A looks pretty good with those 17 inch Year One snowflake wheels....do you know if he has a stock suspension on the car or has he lifted the ride height?




It's not stock.
After he put the wheels on, he had a huge gap between the top of the tire to the fender opening, that he lowered the car.
I think he used different springs, but don't recall exactly what he used.
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 03:18 PM

the 17s look very nice in person,i have seen them on a couple 79s.
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Thanks 1tinindian, those pics sold me on the wheels, if you are able to come across the tire size could you please post it, yearone claims 275 fit but that seems pretty wide on the front, my 255 rub now.


I'll see what I can do.

Here's the same car with the Centerlines he had on the car at the time.
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Posted 24 January 2010 - 04:05 PM

the different wheel and tire combo totally change the look of the car, I better get to work.
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Posted 08 February 2010 - 08:50 PM

hey man, i put the 17x9.5 snowflakes on my 74 bird. They're on my facebook. Add me and check em out. GEOFF WOOD

P.S i could also send you the tire sizing i put on mine...i ran into alot of issues with the delivery from year one so better order them soon if you want em for the summer haha
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Posted 12 February 2010 - 05:54 AM

275's will fit okay in the rear, but I would stay with 255 or smaller in the front. With 17" rims, you'll probably be limited to -40 series profile, unless you modify the suspension.

For Gray Ghost, I'm looking at 16 x 8 Crome Rallye II's from Wheel Vintiques. I just prefer a little more rubber around the rims in a 2nd Gen. Once, I mounted my 17 x 9 Firehark wheels with 275-ZR-40's on Gray Ghost just to see how it looked, and I did not care for the low profile appearance, although it looks great on the 4th Gen.
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 08:41 AM

View Postalberta 77, on 23 January 2010 - 05:51 PM, said:

Does anyone have a picture or know of a link, or site that would have a picture of a second gen with the 17 inch cast snowflakes from year one mounted on it?
I have a buccaneer red 77 T/a and am curious what they would look like. What front and rear sizes would be used with a stock ride height car? I have 255/60/15s on all four corners and like the outside diameter.

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HI ALBERTA 77
I have just become a member & have some of the same questions as i too am getting 17" year one rims .I have hotkiss full suspension system in the car lowered 2" in front & 1.5" in rear do you know if any clearance issues with new rims & rubber. I have also put on ssbc 2 piston brake kit & have read some issues with original snow flakes on ssbc web site. what back spacing did you get for your car I have a 1979 formula. Thanks for any info
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 02:29 PM

You can fit a lot larger tire then you'd think in the second gen's. Here is a link to the year one Bandits...
http://www.yearone.c...54/Default.aspx

This link has some specs with wheel and tire sizes on it.
http://www.yearone.c...74/Default.aspx

Granted they have been highly modified. I have been doing a ton of research on this subject for my 81' Formula. I have decided on 18"x9" wheels with 275/45ZR18's on the rear and 245/50/ZR18's on the front. They are 0.3" larger in diameter then the stock tire (225/70R15). Just need the money now. :)
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Posted 08 March 2010 - 04:47 PM

i went with 9.5's in the back and i wish i woulda gone with 10"....again like he said, you have alot more room than u think.
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Posted 13 March 2010 - 08:22 AM

All I have are the 1978 Skybird snowflake wheels...stock....http://www.firebirdnation.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/peelout.gif
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