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#1 User is offline   Shadyruss182 

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 09:12 PM

My Friend Martin bought a 1997 Buick Le Sabre. Since hes had it for about a month he hasnt gone a week without something messing up on it. Today the Head Gaskets Blew. And hes not sure he wants to spend the money to Fix it, or just try to get rid of it. He spent $1800 on it in the first place. and hes already put about $900 in repairs in the first month. And since i know repairing the Head Gasket basically involves take apart a major amount of the engine, so i know its pretty pricey. So i personally think the best bet is to get rid of it and get a new one. But what would be the best way to go about doing that? Im not sure i know anyone who would buy a car with a blown Head Gasket. So he appreciates any bit of help. ( Anyone notice i always try to get advice for him on here even though he drives a Buick, haha i just trust you guys that much)
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Posted 16 December 2009 - 09:21 PM

Well he can sell the car As Is but will get very little if any thing for it. But if he fix's the problem than sells it he will get alot more or keep it.
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Posted 16 December 2009 - 09:41 PM

If you guys do the work yourselves, it won't be too expensive. Just some time, a few busted knuckles (and cuss words), and the cost of the head gaskets. Head gaskets are relatively cheap from your local auto parts store. :12EMOTICHEERS:

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Posted 16 December 2009 - 10:19 PM

:12EMOTICHEERS: Try and fix it you have nothing to lose and it will be good to learn.
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Posted 16 December 2009 - 10:25 PM

25 dollars or so for a Haynes manual will equip you with the knowledge required. You'll need space to work on it of course, and it would be wise to have someone available to come and give some hands on help if you are really uncomfortable with it.
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Posted 17 December 2009 - 01:45 AM

three possibilities...

1) Sell: when he sell the car in its "broken" condition, he won't get much money
2) Fix&Sell: he can fix the car by his own (of with your help ^^) and get a better price
3) Fix: fix the car and keep it...

I would prefer Nr 3. because he knews what he investet/replaced in the car in the past month, when he sell the car and get a new one, probably the new car broke too with the same part he already replaced in the Buick?! I hope you understand what I mean...

Maybe there is a light on the end of the tunnel and when the head gasket is fixed he can probably drive it a long time without any trouble... http://www.firebirdnation.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/crossfingers22.gif
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Posted 17 December 2009 - 02:09 AM

Paid $1800.00 for the car, and has invested $900.00 for a total of $2700.00................. Seems to me that buying a new set of gaskets, and having the heads machined would be of minimal cost. I have replaced head gaskets on a 187,000 mile car, and gotten another 50,000 miles out of it before I traded it in. It is not that difficult to do the work, like Harry said. A few scraped knuckles and a lot of knowledge gained.
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Posted 17 December 2009 - 12:49 PM

I have to agree with Larry on this answer to this post.

If you paid $1800 for the car and have invested $900 in it for a total of $2700..makes sense to fix it and keep the car running.

Buy a new head gasket, machine the heads and put it all back together. If you are not able to do this work, pay someone at a reputable garage and look at another $700 to be put into the car which will bring the total to $3400.

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Posted 17 December 2009 - 05:33 PM

I say fix it.
However, everyone left out the price of something else.
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Posted 18 December 2009 - 07:12 AM

That must have been 1 abused and neglected Buick. My '91 has 345,000 on it. Sure, I've replaced a ton of parts, but it is also the best car I have ever owned.

Fix it and drive it, unless it a all ragged out, then make the decision and don't look back.
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Posted 18 December 2009 - 10:22 PM

 Rusty, on 18 December 2009 - 07:12 AM, said:

That must have been 1 abused and neglected Buick. My '91 has 345,000 on it. Sure, I've replaced a ton of parts, but it is also the best car I have ever owned.

Fix it and drive it, unless it a all ragged out, then make the decision and don't look back.


I go with Rusty there - how is the rest of the car? Tires, brakes, electrical all ok? Body & interior in good shape? I'd fix it an keep it. And build upgrades into the fixes so you get some added value for the cost.

I'd hate to see someone bail out and take loss, only to turn around and start again with another used car and dealing with it's new problems.

I'm the one that paid $1200 for a fuel pump on a car that cost $1500. Said car is a very clean and tight Firebird. No regrets.

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 10:28 PM

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I say fix it.
However, everyone left out the price of something else.
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